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Warhammer 40.000 => Reglas => Mensaje iniciado por: Psiweapon en 23 de Febrero de 2005, 16:00:26
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Estas son las reglas en inglés que posteé en Kovash Tauva sobre un posible "séquito etéreo", ya las traduciré :) el que entienda inglés que me diga que le parece! Es la primera vez que me invento unidades asi que debe ser una verdadera KK
I don't know a bleeping thing about retinues, but here's my two cents anyway:
There could be several kinds of "advisors", but let's say that you can't pick them all, so you have to choose between different advantages:
Shas'Vre Bodyguard 45 points
Ws Bs S T W I A L S
3 3 4 3 1 3 2 8 3+
Shas'El Bodyguard +10 points
Ws Bs S T W I A L S
3 4 4 3 2 3 2 9 3+
Equipped with a modified stealthsuit, which is no longer stealth capable, duh. It keeps the jump packs, though. It has now two hardpoints, one must be for a weapon and the other one for a support system. It can be upgraded to Shas'El at +10 points and can pick hard-wired options as pertains to his rank.
-Weapon options:
Burst Cannon at +10 pts
Plasma Rifle at +20 pts
Fusion Blaster at +15 pts
-Support System options:
Target Lock +5 pts
Shield Generator +25 pts
Drone Controller plus:
1-2 Gun Drone +10 pts/drone
1-2 Shield Drone +15 pts/drone
Shas'vre Sniper 36 pts
Ws Bs S T W I A L S
3 3 3 3 1 3 2 8 4+
Shas'el Sniper +10 pts
Ws Bs S T W I A L S
3 4 3 3 2 3 2 9 4+
Equipped with regular Pathfinder armor and clothes. Can be upgraded to Shas'El at +10 points and can pick hard-wired support system choices as pertains to his rank.
-Weapon options:
Either pulse carbine+markerlight combo for no additional cost, or a Tau Railgun at +24 points. The Railgun is upgraded with a Target Lock System but doesn't overheat (hence the expensive point cost)
Kroot Field Advisor 13 pts
Ws Bs S T W I A L S
4 3 4 3 1 3 1 8 6+
Great Kroot Field Advisor
Ws Bs S T W I A L S +21 pts
4 3 4 3 3 3 3 8 6+
Equipped with traditional Kroot wargear, Tau gifts and things picked from different foes, that means 6+ save and kroot rifle. Can be upgraded to Great Kroot at +21 points. The Great Kroot has these privileges: he can choose a Pulse Rifle or Pulse Carbine instead of a Kroot Rifle at +5 points,and can choose a single Hardwired Support System.
Special Rules:
Eaters of the Dead:
This rule only applies if the Field Advisor is a Great Kroot, since if he is only a regular Kroot, he will refrain from his cannibalistic ways in respect for the aun. But if he is a Great Kroot, the Aun will respect his alien customs because he/she knows it's useful for the Kroot people.
Aborigens:
This rule extends to the whole unit, as the Kroot teachs them how to hide and shows them the way through the terrain.
Infiltration: This rule extends to the whole unit.
Getting to Know your Enemy:
Every time an entire enemy team is wiped, the Great Kroot can pass a special leadership check (with his own 8 leadership and no other rule will make it automatically pass) you can choose to raise the WS or BS of one of your teams by 1 against that particular enemy for the duration of the match. This rule doesn't work against Necrons, and if it's used against Tyranids or Chaos, the Great Kroot must roll an armor save throw or suffer a wound, and won't do it if he has only one wound left.
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Por'vre Battle Journalist 26 pts
Ws Bs S T W I A L S
3 0 3 3 1 5 1 8 4+
Por'el Battle Journalist + 14 pts
Ws Bs S T W I A L S
3 0 3 3 2 5 2 9 4+
Equipped with durable clothes and protections equivalent to a Fire Warrior or a Pathfinder, the Por'vre Battle Journalist is equipped with image and sound recording systems. The Por'vre Battle Journalist job is to record all he can so the information about the battle can be sent back to be researched, or aired as news.
The Por'vre Battle Jounalist can be upgraded to Por'el Battle Journalist and Propagandist at the cost of +14 points. He/She then has the "If I duck here this way..." special rule. He/She can choose hard-wired support systems as pertains to his/her rank.
Special Rules:
I must film this!: For every unit wiped out in the battlefield, you get a percentage of the victory points it awards depending on their distance from a Battle Journalist:
distance - points
less than 6 - 20% points
between 6 and 12 - 15% points
between 12 and 18 - 10% points
more than 18 - no points, it's too far away.
This represents the ability to take into account what made them lose or win decisively by filming battles. The Battle Journalist must have line of sight to any unit it wants to "film", and must make a roll to spot them if the rule "night combat" is in effect (unless they purchase a hard-wired blacksun filter) or if they have anything that makes a spot roll needed (smoke dischargers, holographic disruption suits, etc.)
If I duck here this way...: If a Por'El Battle Journalist is in the retinue, all cover saves of 5+ and 6+ become of 4+ for the Ethereal and the Retinue. If the Ethereal and the Retinue don't move during a complete movement phase, they gain a 4+ cover save, as the experience the Por'el has at passively surviving battlefields allows them to find safe poses, places to hide or cracks in the terrain. Whenever a model of the unit is moved or shoots, they lose it. If they are in a place where they would naturally (without using this rule) get a 4+ cover save and don't move during a complete movement phase, it improves to a 3+ cover save, and if they are in a place where they would naturally (without using this rule) get a 3+ cover save and dont move during a complete movement phase, i improves to a 2+ cover save. As soon as any model moves or shoots any improvement of the cover save is lost.
I can see it all with this little cam: If any enemy infiltrators deploy any closer than 30 of any model of the Tau army, or 24 if they don't have line of sight, they are spotted at the roll of 4+, and you can design a single unit to have a free shooting phase against the spotted infiltrators before the first turn begins.
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Fio'Vre Engineer
Ws Bs S T W I A L S 30 pts
3 2 3 3 1 3 2 8 4+
Fio'El Master Artificer +20 pts
Ws Bs S T W I A L S
3 2 3 3 2 3 2 9 4+
The Fio'Vre and Fio'El are experienced workers and smiths that decide to go to the battlefield to lend a hand. They wear though work robes and carry tools that count as an additional hand-to-hand weapon.
Special Rules
You know? They're more armoured than they look: Every drone destroyed within 12' of a Fio'Vre Engineer will gain a wound and stand up again at the end of the turn if the weapon that killed it allowed its armor save, on a roll of a 6+. Every drone destroyed within 6' of a Fio'El Master Artificer will gain a wound and rise again at the end of the turn, on a roll of a 5+. The two effects of this rule are cumulative.
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Kor Watcher 20 pts
The Kor Watcher is a Kor scout ship watching over the retinue. It's equipped with a markerlight and four Seeker missiles at +40 points. It's not represented on the battlefield, but it's automatically lost if the Aun is killed. It can use its markerlights with its own seeker missiles, or to mark targets for other units. It also has two Killer Bombs at +30 pts, the range is 18 from the Aun, must be guided by a markerlight (it can be the Kor watcher's own markerlight or another one) and its profile is the same as the submunition railgun shot:
F 6, FP 4, ordnance blast, heavy 1.
The Kor watcher can launch up to the 4 seeker missiles in a single turn (as long as each one is guided by a different markerlight) but it can't fire more than one Killer Bomb per turn, nor fire a Seeker Missile in the same turn than a Killer Bomb or vice-versa.
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Muy completo, estaria bueno que lo pudieras, poner traducido y otra cosa, Estaria bueno por el orden y todo eso Hermano Psiweapon, fijate que unos posts abajo en Unidades Nuevas o algo asi, estamos posteando nuevas unidades y discutimos reglas, sino te molesta podemos seguir ahi.
Por otra parte Bienvenido Hermano por fin otro Tau , creo que ya somos 3 o 4 Seguidores del Tau'va por aqui.
Saludos Isoroku ;)
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Mañana mismo me pongo a traducirlo. Las reglas para los Por?vre y ?el son muy graciosas (si me agacho de esta manera..., Tengo que filmar eso!, y mi preferida...Puedo ver todo con esta pequeña camarita)
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Hey que lo puedo traducir yo solo! de hecho ya lo estoy haciendo XP si lo puedo escribir en inglés ¿cómo no voy a poder en español? pero tu mismo :D
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no habia leido que lo habias posteado en otro foro..me parecio que lo habias encontrado en otro foro..disculpa :-
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Hey que no pasa nada :D si quieres traducirlo, tradúcelo, te lo he dicho porque me parecía que no te habias dado cuenta de que era mío, pero k no me importa, asi has colaborado tu tambien (¡¡por el bien supremo!!) :)
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Ok, no pasa nada psiweapon, hoy veo en persona a Mekorig y le digo que lo traduzca, es un poco colgado de la lampara , pero es un buen amigo.
Saludos Isoroku :D
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Si es tau tiene que ser bueno ;)
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Pues me parece algo bastillo, pero se queda en nada con los rumores tiranidos, asi que lo veo compensando, enserio, xD. Felicidades, piswebon ;D
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Mi idea original era que se escogieran solo algunas de esas opciones, tres quizas (por ejemplo el guardaespaldas, el kroot y el corresponsal de guerra) ademas del etéreo. Es que si van todos, joder...
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disculpa pero creo q esas reglas estan sacadas de otro foro y luego estan pegadas en otro tamaño y letra!! sorry >:(
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hombre, yo no es por nada... pero el piswebon en ingles escribe asi... dudo que sea copiado, perdona...
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Creo en la habilidad de Psiweapon para haber hecho esto, pon el foro en que lo has puesto hermano de Casta, y borraras cualquier duda de aquellos que no siguen la senda del Tau'va.
A todo esto habeis visto la Campaña Contra Orkos de la pagina de Usa ? Esta bastante buena y esquematica...
Saludos Isoroku ;)
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Lo posteé en Kovash Tauva, un foro sobre Tau, en un thread sobre reglas para posibles séquitos etéreos, donde llevo el mismo nick que aquí (Psiweapon) El post es fácilmente identificable, porque además de poner lo mismo, es el más largo del thread (al menos que yo haya visto).
Enlace al foro en general
http://s3.invisionfree.com/Kovash_Tauva/index.php?act=idx
Enlace al thread sobre el séquito etéreo y a mi post.
http://s3.invisionfree.com/Kovash_Tauva/index.php?showtopic=2025
Este material lo escribí ahí directamente (luego lo guardé en mi ordenador) y me tiré toda la tarde haciéndolo, si pese a esto alguien no se lo cree, lo traduciré yo mismo de tal manera que no cabrá duda de que lo ha traducido una persona humana y friki ;D
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Mi muy querido Hermano de casta Psiweapon, congratulaciones por la respuesta, a todo esto hermano..., te has fijado en el Foro de GW de desarrollo de la pagina Britanica en la pagina 4 y 5 hay 2 post donde se desenvuelven temas interesantes para el Tau'va como opciones de diversos Traits para los diferentes mundos Tau y mas opciones de armamento, entre otras cosas echale un ojo a el Sequito Etereo de Tol'ku hay unas reglas muy interesantes ahi te animas a traducir esos post por el bien de los Tau hispanohablantes? Se bueno...
Saludos Isoroku ;)
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No sé cómo acceder a ese material pero dímelo y yo lo traduciré ^|^
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Te lo puse en el Post Diossssssss y etc Pagina de GW UK Foro de Desarrollo Games Developement y hasta ahi fue mi ingles, Pagina 4 y 5 Ojo no te pierdas por el camino que hay muchos post de Tau
The big post Whislist Version 3.1 (Armas nuevas)
y la de los Clanes es "Tau Varient Lists" ahora esta en la pagina 5.
Saludos Isoroku :D
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Sere curioso Psiweapon, has podido comenzar a hacer las traducciones de los post que te pase?
Si no puedes los hago yo...
Saludos Isoroku :D
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Me entran ganas de traducir uno sobre ventajas segun los clanes, porque los demas no me gustan casi ninguno :(
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Ok, se ve que pensamos similarmente Hermano Psiweapon , porque ese es el que mas me interesa, porque sera no?.
Saludos Isoroku ;)